am better 32 bit

Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

SilentOlsenwrote: Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

As for the 13MB download. Try again. That is a common error, and is associated with the downloading process.
I'd stick with the 32 bit version for now, as you have the older programs and want full driver compatibilty (which is still hard with Vista!).
And, yes, if you install Vista on another partition or HD, you do get an option at boot as to what OS you want to boot to.

If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message

Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

18 GB isn't really enough. You will have to leave some room for your other OS. You should buy another hard drive to install Vista on or go on a serious cleanup mission before re-partitioning the hard drive. At a minimum you'd want 30 GB free, 15 - 20 GB for Vista and the rest for the other OS. You'll need a 3rd party tool to do the re-partitioning. You should also backup before attempting this.
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User
"marc.nutty" wrote in message

because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

I suggest that you add a drive. By the time you allocate even the 15GB minimum required for Vista you will not leave sufficient for XP to run smoothly. Even 15 GB for Vista only allows enough for the installation (11GB), pagefile, temp files, etc. Vista dwarfs XP in every dimension I know of.
"marc.nutty" wrote in message

because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

I would go the other way. I would use the drive manufacturers software to partition the new hard drive, and then copy the old operating system into the first partition.
Then I would install the new hard drive as the primary master to prove that it works before doing anything else.
Then I would remove the new drive, and install the old drive as the secondary master.
Boot from the x86 Vista DVD, partition the old drive into two 30 Gig partitions, and install X86 Vista onto the first partition.
Boot from the 64bit Vista DVD and install 64bit onto the second partition.
Reinstall the new drive as the primary master.
Use the BIOS to select which drive to boot to.
Make sure all three Operating Systems work.
This way Vista won't know about your old XP operating system, and won't mess with the MBR.
Todd
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message

18 GB isn't really enough. You will have to leave some room for your other OS. You should buy another hard drive to install Vista on or go on a serious cleanup mission before re-partitioning the hard drive. At a minimum you'd want 30 GB free, 15 - 20 GB for Vista and the rest for the other OS. You'll need a 3rd party tool to do the re-partitioning. You should also backup before attempting this.
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User
"marc.nutty" wrote in message because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

I agree with everyone a little-add another hard drive 30-60(30 for only one Vista OS) but I have tried dual booting a couple ways and I prefer to boot Vista install from XP desktop so when I am running Vista or XP my drive letters remain constant and it seems to boot better on my PC. I run my drives in Cable Select mode instead of master/slave too.
"Todd" wrote:

I would go the other way. I would use the drive manufacturers software to partition the new hard drive, and then copy the old operating system into the first partition.
Then I would install the new hard drive as the primary master to prove that it works before doing anything else.
Then I would remove the new drive, and install the old drive as the secondary master.
Boot from the x86 Vista DVD, partition the old drive into two 30 Gig partitions, and install X86 Vista onto the first partition.
Boot from the 64bit Vista DVD and install 64bit onto the second partition.
Reinstall the new drive as the primary master.
Use the BIOS to select which drive to boot to.
Make sure all three Operating Systems work.
This way Vista won't know about your old XP operating system, and won't mess with the MBR.
Todd
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message 18 GB isn't really enough. You will have to leave some room for your other OS. You should buy another hard drive to install Vista on or go on a serious cleanup mission before re-partitioning the hard drive. At a minimum you'd want 30 GB free, 15 - 20 GB for Vista and the rest for the other OS. You'll need a 3rd party tool to do the re-partitioning. You should also backup before attempting this.
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User
"marc.nutty" wrote in message because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

On more modern system (SATA drives and such) it will not affect the boot up which method the poster uses or which drives he chooses to put which operating systems on.
"daddy3" wrote in message

I agree with everyone a little-add another hard drive 30-60(30 for only one Vista OS) but I have tried dual booting a couple ways and I prefer to boot Vista install from XP desktop so when I am running Vista or XP my drive letters remain constant and it seems to boot better on my PC. I run my drives in Cable Select mode instead of master/slave too.
"Todd" wrote:
I would go the other way. I would use the drive manufacturers software to partition the new hard drive, and then copy the old operating system into the first partition.
Then I would install the new hard drive as the primary master to prove that it works before doing anything else.
Then I would remove the new drive, and install the old drive as the secondary master.
Boot from the x86 Vista DVD, partition the old drive into two 30 Gig partitions, and install X86 Vista onto the first partition.
Boot from the 64bit Vista DVD and install 64bit onto the second partition.
Reinstall the new drive as the primary master.
Use the BIOS to select which drive to boot to.
Make sure all three Operating Systems work.
This way Vista won't know about your old XP operating system, and won't mess with the MBR.
Todd
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message 18 GB isn't really enough. You will have to leave some room for your other OS. You should buy another hard drive to install Vista on or go on a serious cleanup mission before re-partitioning the hard drive. At a minimum you'd want 30 GB free, 15 - 20 GB for Vista and the rest for the other OS. You'll need a 3rd party tool to do the re-partitioning. You should also backup before attempting this.
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User
"marc.nutty" wrote in message because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

This is what I have done,despite having a well running 32 bit partition installed clean FROM XP. Reinstalled 32 bit booting from the DVD. "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

Well I have another HDD in my comp with about 30GB free space now. :-)
Also, will Vista beta 2 work on a pretty good laptop? I'm talking 2GHz,

512mb RAM, and a graphics card about 64mb ram. ???

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

I suggest that you add a drive. By the time you allocate even the 15GB minimum required for Vista you will not leave sufficient for XP to run smoothly. Even 15 GB for Vista only allows enough for the installation (11GB), pagefile, temp files, etc. Vista dwarfs XP in every dimension I know of.
"marc.nutty" wrote in message because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

I also use cable select, which is what Maxtor recommended for my new 200 Gig hard drive.
Just the same, since the new hard drive is jumpered to be cable select and the black cable connector is on the hard drive, it is cable selected to be the master.
Since the DVD burner is jumpered to be cable select, and the grey cable connector is on the DVD burner, it is cable selected to be the slave.
The old drive is jumpered to be the Master.
Todd
"daddy3" wrote in message

I agree with everyone a little-add another hard drive 30-60(30 for only one Vista OS) but I have tried dual booting a couple ways and I prefer to boot Vista install from XP desktop so when I am running Vista or XP my drive letters remain constant and it seems to boot better on my PC. I run my drives in Cable Select mode instead of master/slave too.
"Todd" wrote:
I would go the other way. I would use the drive manufacturers software to partition the new hard drive, and then copy the old operating system into the first partition.
Then I would install the new hard drive as the primary master to prove that it works before doing anything else.
Then I would remove the new drive, and install the old drive as the secondary master.
Boot from the x86 Vista DVD, partition the old drive into two 30 Gig partitions, and install X86 Vista onto the first partition.
Boot from the 64bit Vista DVD and install 64bit onto the second partition.
Reinstall the new drive as the primary master.
Use the BIOS to select which drive to boot to.
Make sure all three Operating Systems work.
This way Vista won't know about your old XP operating system, and won't mess with the MBR.
Todd
"Kerry Brown" wrote in message 18 GB isn't really enough. You will have to leave some room for your other OS. You should buy another hard drive to install Vista on or go on a serious cleanup mission before re-partitioning the hard drive. At a minimum you'd want 30 GB free, 15 - 20 GB for Vista and the rest for the other OS. You'll need a 3rd party tool to do the re-partitioning. You should also backup before attempting this.
-- Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Shell/User
"marc.nutty" wrote in message because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,

Good job. That will be a much better target.
"marc.nutty" wrote in message

Well I have another HDD in my comp with about 30GB free space now. :-)
Also, will Vista beta 2 work on a pretty good laptop? I'm talking 2GHz, 512mb RAM, and a graphics card about 64mb ram. ???
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
I suggest that you add a drive. By the time you allocate even the 15GB minimum required for Vista you will not leave sufficient for XP to run smoothly. Even 15 GB for Vista only allows enough for the installation (11GB), pagefile, temp files, etc. Vista dwarfs XP in every dimension I know of.
"marc.nutty" wrote in message because my HDD for the comp I want to install is only 60GB, and I only hav 18GB left lol.
Btw, how much should I partition for the installation?
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
If you have two empty partitions or drives why not install both?
"SilentOlsen" wrote in message Hi,
Firstly, the download for the 64-bit says its about 13mb lol, so dunno whats goin on there.
Secondly, will I be "safer" using the 32-bit version as a lot of my programs are older and I dont want to mess about re-installing XP etc... becuase half my drivers or programs wont work lol. ???
Also, my HDD isn't massive. If I installed Vista on a seperate partition, will I get a message asking me which OS to use when I boot up? and if I choose vista will I be able to access my documents etc...as I would normally with XP? Or can I only have one OS?
Cheers,